i don't know what it meant to you, but my brother jim filled me in today. the boardwalk is gone down there where grace kelly lived, all that historic stuff down there. just gone. all the way down to the south everything's flooded. it's amazing how much damage. but luckily, as i think was wonderful the way your former colleague, actually governor christie said today, not much loss of life. this is all about stuff that can be replaced. >> right, and he's right. it can be replaced if we understand that government has a role in our lives. government is important in our lives, and government has to be the key factor in helping that effort, that recovery effort. >> well, let's talk about that effort. let me go right now to david corn who is joining me. it seems to me that fema, working on that with the carter administration, there was a judgment made way back when in the '70s that government needs to be united. one focus by one man or woman, this guy, fugate's got to be good. you need like a baseball team, you need a manager, somebody to call the shots. >> and we